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Airborne Division T/O&E WWII

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:41 am
by Colin Britton
This is T/O&E for a U.S. Airborne Division during WWII.

vehicles

1. Trailer 1/4 ton ----- 272.
2. Trailer 1 ton ----- 88.
3. Truck 1/4 ton ----- 327.
4. Truck 3/4 ton
ambulance KD ----- 12.
5. Truck 3/4 ton
weapons carrier ----- 31.
6.Truck 2 1/2 ton
cargo ----- 86.
7. Truck 2 1/2 ton
dump ----- 4.
8. Truck 2 1/2 ton
signal corps repair ----- 2.
9. Truck 4 ton
wrecker ----- 1.
10. Tractor crawler
type 20 DBHP ----- 4.
11. Trailer Dump 1/2 ton ----- 10
12. Car 5 passenger
sedan ----- 1.
13. Motorcycle, solo ----- 12.
14. Scooter, motor ----- 236.
15. Cart, hand ----- 312.
16. Airplane, Liaison ----- 8.

Thought you would like to know. :D

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:56 pm
by Bill_Wolf
Good stuff Doc,

How much of the 1/4 ton stuff was flown in and how much was land bridge?

Who got the car?

What were the 8 planes....All Grasshoppers?

How many water buckets were issued? :shock:

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:11 pm
by John V Cliche
Would that same vehicle list apply to "in theather"base of operations ?
Or to more of a permanent state side base ?


Thanks
John

T/O&E vehicles

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:30 am
by Colin Britton
The T/O&E is what they are authorized period. So it would be drawn from war stock in theatre or shipped over in boats. But they would of had this in Europe.

Now per T/O&E.

Bucket: Canvas Water 18qt----------- 1 per truck! That's alot of buckets! :D

The 5 passenger sedan would of belonged to the Divison HQ. and would of stayed in England.

The 4 crawler tractors were Clark Air's belonging to the 307th Engr Bn. with the 4 tipper 2 1/2 tons and 1 cargo 2 1/2 ton truck. But they did have larger dozers as I have pictures of them from the museum.

Most of the 82nds "heavies" Stuff too big to fit in a glider: came in D+3 on the beach this included the 4 ton Wrecker.

I have access to the manifests of all the gliders with tail numbers and cargo. Just not here and way to big a file to be sent to me via email. But there were alot of jeeps/trailers/howitzers and AT guns inserted by glider.
This report also has the After Action repots with what gliders were damaged, recovered, destroyed and casualties by tail number. Neat to read and I can remember only a couple gliders were a total loss during the invasion for the 82nd. Your chances were very good if you were a glider rider of getting on the ground intact by this report.

Not sure what kind/make the airplane was at this moment.

And thanks to Jimmie at the 82nd War Memorial Museum for emailing me the T/O&E.

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:38 pm
by pop larkin
Any idea of which regiments the 1 1/2 ton cargo trucks belonged to?

Thanks

Airborne T/O&E

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:53 am
by Colin Britton
Pop,

Looking back thru the T/O&E from 1942 to 1945 I could not find the 1 1/2 ton truck cargo. I found where my error was as one of the copies I was looking at had alot of hand written notes on the page as I was typing and made a regiments cargo truck look like a 1-1/2 ton truck cargo but it was actually a 2-1/2 ton cargo.
Sorry for the mix up. :oops:

Now there were "modifications" to the T/O&E's, as I have pictures of the 82nd MP platoon's cargo 2-1/2 ton truck that by the T/O&E they did not have on the books.
As well I have pictures of 307th Engineers with/using Cat D-4 size dozers in the Ardennes and France, but on paper they should have the cute little Clark Air. So they either requested them thru proper channels or aquired them in theatre. :wink:
So it does not mean the some company 1SG did not aquire a 1-1/2 ton truck for company use back in England. But I cant confirm or deny that ever happened.

As for the Liaison Aircraft they belonged to the Division Artillery so they were all "FO" type aircraft.

And by T/O&E the Engineers did not have Le Roy Compressor CCKW's they had 2 Compressor, air, trailer mounted for the Battalion as well as all 10 of the 1/2 ton Converto Dump Trailers.

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:13 am
by armydriver
I would imagine the airplanes were the L-2, L-3 , L-4's.or L-5's. I am really escited about the water bucket issues though. Imagine that many canvas buckets , all at one time. :lol:
Great info, thanks Doc.

Airborne T/O&E

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:40 am
by Colin Britton
There were alot of changes thru the war years.
From the 1st T/O&E from Aug 1942 to to Aug 1944 there were some HUGE changes in the property books. And from Aug 1944 to Dec 1944 Were even more HUGE changes in the Airborne T/O&E's I dont have the 1945 yet but they are scanning them and they will send them to me from the 82nd museum. But you can see how things learned after each operation changed their equipment and weapons and numbers. Neat stuff I'll share more as I can.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:29 pm
by abn CCKW
Speaking of Gliders I found this on You-tube , a walk thru of the Glider museum in Lubbock Texas " Silent Wings Museum" may be of interest here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GGyICoyDAI

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:09 pm
by Bill_Wolf
Interesting Video.

Looks like a great place to visit when in Texas.

Bill

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:27 am
by armydriver
There are lots of great places to visit in Texas. The National Museum of the War in the Pacific in Fredericksburg, Texas, The Combat Medic Museum at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, The Commerative Air Force Museum in Odessa-Midland are some of the museums dedicated to World
War Two, besides the Silent Wings Museum. If you are planning a trip to the Lone Star State, let me know and I will be glad to furnish info for you. :D