Spotted these beautys while traveling today....

Trucks used by the U.S. Army in world War II that were 2.5 tons and larger. Such as Studebaker US-6, International M5-6, 4 Ton tractors (Auto Car, etc.), 5 Ton (Corbitt, etc.), the Dragon Wagon, and any other trucks 2.5 tons and over.
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Spotted these beautys while traveling today....

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TOP SECRET LOCATION.... 8)

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Post by timpage »

Awesome! Is the top truck a Federal? Sure looks stout as all get go!
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Post by Chappers »

Looks like a Diamond T 980 to me???
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CCKW 352 1942 No 7 set
CCKW 353 1943 cargo
CCKW 353 1945 cargo under restoration
Dodge WC 51 1944
Ford GPW 1944
Morris LRC 1944 under restoration
Polsten Quad 1944
Willys M38A1 1963
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Post by dr deuce »

Top one is definately a Diamond T

Bottom one is a closed cab Autocar or FWD.

They have the same engine (529 cid Herc), tranny, xfer and front axle
Dr Deuce Over 50,000 driven miles in a CCKW
1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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Post by Bill_Wolf »

The top truck is a Diamond T 969 Wrecker. Here is a picture of the data plates.

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Missing a couple of parts but very restorable.

The Bottom pic is probably a Autocar U 7144T (White also made these 444T) 4-5 Ton tractor. No plates. It is restoreable but would need a donor vehicle or 2. It would be perfect to tow the F-2 USAAF fuel tanker I have been eyeing.

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Post by John V Cliche »

H i Bill

I know these trucks
The owner is Eric Horr
The Autocar is a 4 5 ton it will be restored it came from Frank Buck he delivered it when he bought the International half track from the Wright Museum
The red 4 ton Dia T is for sale it a needs an engine and drive shafts and a (as usual for this neck of the woods ) body .
Was the M5H6 there as well ?

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44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
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Post by Bill_Wolf »

Boy you give up all my secrets.... :roll:

The IH was gone.

I had seen these last spring but did not have my camera.

What does he want for the Diamond T?
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Diamond T was the best looking HMV (closed cab) of WW2 IMHO
Dr Deuce Over 50,000 driven miles in a CCKW
1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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Post by John V Cliche »

Hi Bill

I think it can be had for $3000.00 The motor is bad , the lites and guards are also missing as is some of the drive line .
The cab is in good shape considering the "nesting " that been going on.
I don't know if the battery box and the tins are there or not.
The truck labored as a building mover, the power tower is there but another winch has been adapted since the wrecker gear is not there.
It definitly needs complete resto.
I been thinking about it but by the time a body is located ,an engine, tires etc. and everything is overhauled I estimate that I would have an easy $15,000 plus labor invested. To me it would be more cost effective to purchase a complete unit. Some are listed in the $11,000 to $12,000 range.
I have Eric's number somewhere let me try to find it and post it.

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45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
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Post by timpage »

I like the Diamond T too... a very nice looking piece. Especially now that I know its proper name LOL.
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Post by dr deuce »

John Cliche is right. Buy a complete one

I had one years ago. It needed a door handle. I went to an old car/truck flea market and looked and looked having the broken one in my hand. I finally settled on a Chevy/CCKW handle and had to "rework" it to make it fit.

Parts for them are like the difference between the Jeep and the CCKW, only much worse

You also cannot repower them with a straight engine as the top cowl air scoop extends out over the flathead engine. No OHV allowed, though a GMC 351, 401, or 478 truck V6 would probably be a good match.
Dr Deuce Over 50,000 driven miles in a CCKW
1942 CCKW closed cab shopvan
1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
1944 CCKW open cab LeRoi Kompressor
1944 CCKW open cab F1 Aircraft fueler tanker
1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
1942 Chev cargo
1942 Chev K51 Panel
1944 Chev M6 Bomb Truck
1942 GPW Jeep
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Post by John V Cliche »

The angled windshield, the proportions of the cab to the long hood, the cast radiator. WOW those "Tilt's " sure are handsome.

Besides everyone knows SIZE matters :lol: :lol:

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44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
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Post by John V Cliche »

The IHC M5 H6 that was stored with the above mentioned trucks has been sold to a collector/restorer in southern Maine.


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42 Chevy G7117
44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
MVPA#26900
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Post by Bill_Wolf »

Anybody we know?

Maybe from Kennebunkport?
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Post by John V Cliche »

Naw, I would have told you :wink:
It's a gentleman from Saco that I met at the Weare show a couple of years ago.
Eric the former owner stopped by for a visit today ,so I asked him where the IHC went.
The new owner will be looking for a body I'm sure.
This IHC is a long WB truck so it is pretty much relegated to a cargo body, and we all know how rare they are on this coast :(

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44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
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Post by 41CCKW »

Jim Bertao has a complete partialy restored 1944 Diamond T open cab 4 ton cargo for sale. He is asking $10,000 and it comes with a parts truck. Sure wish I had the money. The Diamond T's are a real cool lookin truck.
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1943 International M-3L-4
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