I would like to take my CCKW to the WWII Weekend in St. Louis at the end of April. My problem is it is a long distance on mostly highways. Due to work time constraints I don't have time to drive it there and back. I need to get it there quickly and get it home quickly when the weekend is over. Plus being on major highways makes me nervous with the ol girl.
My question is has anyone transported their CCKW before or is a semi truck and trailer the only real option. Thanks for any input.
Transporting a CCKW
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Hammerhead
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Transporting a CCKW
1944 GMC CCKW 353, 1943 BEN-HUR Trailer
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Bill_Wolf
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I haul mine on my rig below.
That said you don't need a TT unit but a usable setup is not something you can find at U-Haul.
Since it can be done on a dually, 10 wheel dump truck with equipment trailer, or TT you should be able to find someone locally.
Bill
That said you don't need a TT unit but a usable setup is not something you can find at U-Haul.
Since it can be done on a dually, 10 wheel dump truck with equipment trailer, or TT you should be able to find someone locally.
Bill
1945 GMC DUKW
1942 Chevy 125 Crash Truck from Dow AAFB,
1944 Chevy 325 Fire Truck
1942 WC-54 Ambulance
1944 M29C Weasel (x6)
1945 CCKW 353 A2 Open Cab "Air-portable"
1943 M5 High Speed Tractor
1942 Sperry Searchlight setup with GE Generator
1942 M-1 Fruehauf Searchlight Trailer (G221)
1942 M-17 Fruehauf Quad 50 Trailer (G221)
1942 M-10 Ammo Trailer (x3)
194? Steel Ben Hur (x4) 194? Wood Ben Hur (x2)
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1943 Case VAI USAAF with Mower
1944 Clark CA-1 Airborne Dozer
1944 PE-95G, 1944 PE-99B
1942 Chevy 125 Crash Truck from Dow AAFB,
1944 Chevy 325 Fire Truck
1942 WC-54 Ambulance
1944 M29C Weasel (x6)
1945 CCKW 353 A2 Open Cab "Air-portable"
1943 M5 High Speed Tractor
1942 Sperry Searchlight setup with GE Generator
1942 M-1 Fruehauf Searchlight Trailer (G221)
1942 M-17 Fruehauf Quad 50 Trailer (G221)
1942 M-10 Ammo Trailer (x3)
194? Steel Ben Hur (x4) 194? Wood Ben Hur (x2)
1945 Case VAIW-3 Aircraft Tug
1943 Case VAI USAAF with Mower
1944 Clark CA-1 Airborne Dozer
1944 PE-95G, 1944 PE-99B
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Cat Man
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Hauling CCKW
Bill is correct on the hauling equipment.
One Ton Dual wheel truck with matched goose neck trailer is about the minimium to transport a CCKW. Here is another view.
Cat Man
One Ton Dual wheel truck with matched goose neck trailer is about the minimium to transport a CCKW. Here is another view.
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Hammerhead
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Nice rigs Bill and Catman!! I don't have anything like that available but it's nice to know that is possible if I could find someone to hire to haul it. I might have to resort to a lowboy semi rig if I can't find someone with a gooseneck trailer. Thanks for the info 
1944 GMC CCKW 353, 1943 BEN-HUR Trailer
1943 WC-52, 1944 WC-54 (dod 4/19/44), 1945 Willys MB,
4/44 Bantam T3, MVPA 12610, NRA life Member
1943 WC-52, 1944 WC-54 (dod 4/19/44), 1945 Willys MB,
4/44 Bantam T3, MVPA 12610, NRA life Member
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Re: Hauling CCKW
Do you know what the weights are?Cat Man wrote:Bill is correct on the hauling equipment.
One Ton Dual wheel truck with matched goose neck trailer is about the minimium to transport a CCKW. Here is another view.
Cat Man
I have a '97 F-250 HD 7.3L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel. It has a 4 speed ? automatic and I have an aftermarket programming chip in it that lets me set it to a special tow configuration. It has a gooseneck mount in the bed and a transmission cooler up front. According to the manual in the truck, I can tow 14,200 lbs with a bed weight of 1950 lbs. With the weight of the trailer, I am concerned that I don't have enough truck for this type of hauling.
Do you have any thoughts on this?
Neil
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John V Cliche
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My opinion 
The "lightest" goose neck that I know of has a net wt. of 4500 lbs add to that a CCKW 11,500 lbs ( approx ) do the math and as you can see you are exceeding your vehicle's recommended towing capacity
It's not about power to pull and get the load moving.....it's about controlling it safely and ...STOPPING....remember the more tires on the ground the better the control
If you had a n F350 ie 2 more tires bigger springs and BIGGER brakes you would be much safer...and so would opposing traffic
Hope this helps
John
The "lightest" goose neck that I know of has a net wt. of 4500 lbs add to that a CCKW 11,500 lbs ( approx ) do the math and as you can see you are exceeding your vehicle's recommended towing capacity
It's not about power to pull and get the load moving.....it's about controlling it safely and ...STOPPING....remember the more tires on the ground the better the control
If you had a n F350 ie 2 more tires bigger springs and BIGGER brakes you would be much safer...and so would opposing traffic
Hope this helps
John
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Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
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44 Ford M20 armored car
44 CCKW 353 A1 660 gal Tanker
45 CCKW 353 B2 Air-portable
Ben Hur 1 ton trailer
MVPA#26900
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I used my F250 to go and get the truck. At that time it weighed 8,100 lbs plus about 400lbs for the pump for a total of 8,500 lbs. The trailer weighed 4,400 lbs (I think) so the total was 12,900. By adjusting the brake controller, I could get it to feel like I was tossing out an anchor. By loading the truck to the rear of the trailer, I kept the tongue weight down.
Now I have removed the pump and metal cab, replacing it with wood and lighter materials. I added the wooden van portion so that has made the weight jump up but I haven't weighted the truck yet.
Now I have removed the pump and metal cab, replacing it with wood and lighter materials. I added the wooden van portion so that has made the weight jump up but I haven't weighted the truck yet.
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Cat Man
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Moving CCKWs
Just like going to a gun fight without a gun, you will lose.
Same goes for towing and transporting without enough truck. You will lose.
Twice in my life (back when I was young and foolish) I had close calls when moving machinery with too small a truck. It doesn't have to be at highway speed either. It is a very scary feeling when you turn a corner and the trailer jackknifes and pushes you and your too little truck over the centerline and into the ditch on the other side.
Many state DOT's ware becoming very concerned with hobbiest driving and or towing vintage vehicles in an unsafe manner. I'm working with the WISCONSIN Legislature and DOT right now on this issue.
Try looking at the antique car sites or tractor message boards and I think the G503 web page. All have message boards for people wanting to haul or needing a haul to or from someplace. Sometimes that works. Just make sure they have enough good equipment.
Keep the hobby safe. We don't need an accident with injuries or a fatality to take our hobby off the roads.
Cat Man
Same goes for towing and transporting without enough truck. You will lose.
Twice in my life (back when I was young and foolish) I had close calls when moving machinery with too small a truck. It doesn't have to be at highway speed either. It is a very scary feeling when you turn a corner and the trailer jackknifes and pushes you and your too little truck over the centerline and into the ditch on the other side.
Many state DOT's ware becoming very concerned with hobbiest driving and or towing vintage vehicles in an unsafe manner. I'm working with the WISCONSIN Legislature and DOT right now on this issue.
Try looking at the antique car sites or tractor message boards and I think the G503 web page. All have message boards for people wanting to haul or needing a haul to or from someplace. Sometimes that works. Just make sure they have enough good equipment.
Keep the hobby safe. We don't need an accident with injuries or a fatality to take our hobby off the roads.
Cat Man
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