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Interesting hood

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:27 pm
by 41CCKW
This truck was donated to the museum a few months ago. The frame says it is a few thousand numbers older than my 41 CCKW. By the frame # it should be a April of 1941 352 with winch. The cab has no data plates. It looks like it went through some kind of "Pimp my CCKW" show with all that chrome.

My question is has anyone ever seen a hood like this? I was told it is original.
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Here is the truck
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:41 pm
by joel gopan
If it has Air Force History, you may have your answer.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:45 pm
by dr deuce
standing on the hood maybe?

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:56 pm
by abn CCKW
I would agree with Dr Deuce , Can't think of any other reason there would be a need to reinforce the hood like that ?

Suport

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:02 pm
by mud-snow
It for sure is some device for some sort of support holding something on the hood.
But do not know what. Those foure holdes seems very close to each other, so it can not have been any big suporter, but clearly for something heavy.
Perhaps a stand for some sort of a crane moutned on the back?
Any evidence on the frame for anything "unusual"?

Rolf

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:07 pm
by 41CCKW
The cab is not original to this frame. The frame has been butchered up real bad.

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Hood

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:14 pm
by mud-snow
Well the ad on on the hood are riveted on and not bolted, so my suggestion must be that is was done in a factory and not as a field modification.
Is there any dataplates left in the cab telling serialnumber?
I do think if they still is in place it would be missing the suffix to the end.

Rolf

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:17 pm
by 41CCKW
The only data plates left in the cab talk about checking the water and oil. All of the ID data plates are gone.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:36 pm
by joel gopan
It's got to be a repair, and if the hood was on a truck from the Air Force and the repair and rivets are aluminum it is typical of that era.

Seen it before, Air force Sheet Metal Shops were clever and repaited many a truck body.

Hood

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:14 pm
by Chris T.
I have a photo of a K-53 circa 1944 with the same hood.
It may be because of the rack above the cab, if you're putting stuff up there you'll have to step on the hood/cowl area.
When I get home I'll post the photo.

Later,

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:25 pm
by abn CCKW
the basic hood is original, the bracing who knows , as for the rear frame some factory or Military rebuild depot must have done the conversion work perhaps a man lift had been fitted.
Perhaps someone will recall seeing a CCKW modified like this one?

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:36 pm
by Chris T.
Here's the photo of a K-53's hood "somewhere in the Med, circa 1944"

The bumper markings are :

ELMS-S-AIR-SIG-ST3
ELMS- -B2R


I hope this works!

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Looks the same to me.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:41 am
by dr deuce
Those curves seem to be too smooth to be done not without an English Wheel which would have made that much more labor intensive.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:47 am
by joel gopan
If this is a feature to the K-53, it is hidden away with the specifications for that vehicle. The SNL does not list a special hood for those vans, only standard CCKW Hood is listed. The agency responsible for procurement of the Vans would have it written into the specifications if the CCKW were to be equipped with a special Hood. I have no Idea what has been turned over to MVPA by TACOM in the way of files, either Art or John Pope is in charge of them, and it will be quite a while before there will be a way for all to access 100% of the records.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:43 pm
by Chris T.
Now we have a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

The anwser may be in how the K-53 in the photograph was being used.

Can anyone figure out the bumper markings:

ELMS-S-AIR-SIG-ST3
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The AIR and SIG are easy, but the rest?

Later,

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:05 pm
by joel gopan
What about the rest of the bumper, how is it marked?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:36 pm
by Chris T.
No other markings on the bumper, but the same markings are on the left and right side of the K-53 Van body.
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look to the rear of the van past the GI removing the sealing tape, same markings.

Here's a rear view of the same CCKW.

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Note the "tripod like" brackets on the roof.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:14 pm
by joel gopan
I give up, I just ppent an hour trying to untangle the unit markings. I do know where to go in day time tho.

CCKW Hood Reinforcement

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:36 pm
by Ian McColl
Hey Guys,

My CCKW has the same reinforcements on the hood. I thought it was crazy when I first saw it but figured it had to be done for a reason. I still don't know the reason but it was mentioned in one of the earlier replies that it might had something to do with Air Force requirements. My truck was also assigned to the air force. If it makes any difference mine is a closed cab.

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:40 pm
by armydriver
I remember a letter to Army Motors many years that had the same type of hood re-inforcement with rivits and the CCKW had RCAF markings on the side. There-in might be part of the answer.