Picture week of 12/12/2005

This forum is to discuss all aspect to the lead picture on the first page of CCKW.org. The picture changes every week and will be posted as the first post of the new thread.
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Post by Karoshi »

Why is everybody obsessed with colour ?

Its to do with cut, pleats (darts) and buttons. I wonder if he's wearing Corcorans too?

I'd put him on a fizzer anyway. Incorrectly dressed.
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Karoshi wrote:Incorrectly dressed.
Why?
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Karoshi wrote:Jack, sorry me old mate, both Karoshi and AAA got this one wrong. Its a 43 and mustards, not pinks.

Not correct attire at all.
Hi chaps.

Don't want to go off topic on this thread (sorry admin but Karoshi started it, honest) but can someone give me the 'agreed' list as I like and would like to wear it for this summers events 8)


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Post by Karoshi »

Jack the gear shown is a 43 jacket, 1937 mustard wool trousers, with what should be leggings dismounted and rough out boots. The kit here is being worn by a Century Division infantry man, and represents late war period, thro the winter of 44 to early 45.

Typical of clothing worn in the Vosges campaign, .....good winter kit. The impression looks typical of the stereotypical GI, but he would have had a lighter weight, but similar looking, M41 jacket in place of the 43.

M41 is shorter and has shoulder pleats, with side adjusting buttons on the waist.

Rather depends on the period you're looking too portray, and whether you intend to encompass R.B.Express in your plans.
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UK Jack wrote:
Hi chaps.

Don't want to go off topic on this thread (sorry admin but Karoshi started it, honest) but can someone give me the 'agreed' list as I like and would like to wear it for this summers events 8)

Cheers.

jack.
Sure...Blame the other guy....

In looking at Signal Corps pictures of the period a mix of all uniforms up to the time can be seen in them all. You even see some infantry wearing "Tanker" jackets.

This may help

One of the definative books on this issue is:

G.I. COLLECTORS GUIDE : Army Service Forces Catalog: US Army European Theater of Operations

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Big book, lots of color pictures of original equipment and big type. You know for us older soldiers. :lol:

Available on ebay and Amazon (Currently $29.67 USD) IBSN 2913903878

There is also one for the paratroopers, another for Air Corps, and one for the USMC.

Great book for the library.

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Jack thats a bargain, i've seen them at much higher prices over here.





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Degsy wrote:Jack thats a bargain, i've seen them at much higher prices over here.

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Degsy,

Amazon UK also has them on sale

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... 94-3823825
List Price: £29.95
Our Price: £19.76 & this item Delivered FREE in the UK with Super Saver Delivery. See details & conditions.
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Thanks Bill
They weren't doing them at that price when we got our copy, I wonder if there has been another print run.



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Post by Karoshi »

Degsy, yes there has, and the cover layout is slightly different, with the bottom right hand monotone having changed.

Regretably there still appears to be some small errors in the new print too.
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Post by Degsy »

Well done Karoshi,wondered who would be first to spot that :lol:
No book seems to be perfect but I don't claim to be any sort of expert so probably wouldn't know about or notice tiny errors.



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Fine...you guys be that way....

I just like looking at the pictures :lol: :lol:

I believe the original picture...back at the beginning of the thread was from a US reenactment of a winter 44/45 campaign (taken in the winter of 2004/2005). It was submitted by somebody last summer.

This clothing thing has turned out to be a very interesting thread. I have learned alot

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It is a fascinating subject when you start to look into it but all the hard and fast rules which are trotted out by one person usually seem to be disproved by somebody else,part of the reason for this is because there were exemptions for special operational purposes and also because in the ETO soldiers 'acquired' by various means whatever they found to be most practical or useful. When troops landed on the continent they were equipped to a set standard but the longer they were there and the less issue kit they tended to have, it was only if a formal kit inspection was scheduled that a frantic hunt could sometimes ensue to try to turn up enough kit to pass muster.



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They were dressed to kill. :wink:
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1. That book is now on my list............thanks for telling me :oops:

2. Nothing changes - have been in a meeting all day with the DPA -Defence Procurement Agency - the department that buys for the British Army. You would not believe how under equipped and how under funded our troops are in current conflicts around the world, at this moment in time.

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I've just learned that the GMC pictured on this picture of the week belongs to a friend of mine: Thierry Becker.

Here is the picture of his truck, comming from the owner's gallery of this wesite.
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1942 GMC CCKW 353 cargo closed cab with steel bed
1943 Dodge WC 63 (6x6)
1944 Jeep Willys
1943 steel Ben Hur trailer
194? 1 ton Buffalo water trailer
194? 1/4 ton Bantam trailer
Link to see my vehicules: http://ledog.forumgmc.com
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What you DON'T know about the picture is that I paid the GI to distract the driver.. then while they posed for the camera I tried to sneak off with the spare tire carrier.

But alas, I had an incorrect POST WAR wrench.. and the farby police carted me off. :lol: :roll:
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pfarber wrote:What you DON'T know about the picture is that I paid the GI to distract the driver.. then while they posed for the camera I tried to sneak off with the spare tire carrier.

But alas, I had an incorrect POST WAR wrench.. and the farby police carted me off. :lol: :roll:
The spare tire carrier was already missing. :lol:
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1942 GMC CCKW 353 cargo closed cab with steel bed
1943 Dodge WC 63 (6x6)
1944 Jeep Willys
1943 steel Ben Hur trailer
194? 1 ton Buffalo water trailer
194? 1/4 ton Bantam trailer
Link to see my vehicules: http://ledog.forumgmc.com
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