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M-20 Armored Car Recovery: The Movie

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:39 am
by Colin Britton
Well here is the movie you all have been waiting for...... It went pretty well, had a couple issues on the 1st couple of pulls. Wheels sunk in 8" from sitting and a tree growing behind the left front wheel (which did not want to play nice and rotate) the tree root was working like a chock block. And I found out the linkage on the front axle lever is adjusted so you can have the CCKW in Low range but not have the front engauged unless the shifter lever is way forward. But once the front axle was driving she pulled her right out.


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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:05 pm
by dr deuce
Neat video! :)

I love this sheet! :D

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:02 pm
by John V Cliche
Nice video :)
Looks like those front brakes are still draggin' some ,although not in reverse
I thought at first you were gonna plow a couple of "furrows" all the home :lol: :lol:
Boy that "ol Jimmy "still got some pull :wink:

Thanks
John

PS I found a couple of little bits for that M20 :)

M-20 Recovery and CCKW's

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:50 pm
by Colin Britton
The whole recovery went well and from the time we opened the gate and dragging her out it was an hour and a half recovery. That was including inflating all the tires to 50 psi.

"Lizzy" pulled the M-20 nicely after the inital pull from her resting place. And after that all I needed was the rear drives in low range. I like the way the Norwiegans have the linkage set up and I have access to low without having the front axle engauged. She could be down to an idle and still pull and not stall. She has some grunt. :D

And yeah I dug up the yard and road up pretty bad. But after I got it out on the road I backed off both adjusters till they stopped and rocked it back and forth so by the time the wrecker arrived whe was rolling free forward and reverse.

And I still need to change the rear out put seal on my transfer case on the CCKW...... I'm bad.......

Recovery

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:52 pm
by Cat Man
Great Video!

I remember the first time I tried a recovery like that. Had to enlist the help of my dad the combat engineer, He took me by the arm and walked me around to the FRONT of the truck, pointed and said "this thing is a recovery winch". The next hour was a lesson in shoveling, cable laying and snatch block deployment. Duh! Why didn't I think of that?

Recommend you rig a set of shear poles and get to be a CCKW winch expert as you start taking things off the M20.

Wish I could have been there. Getting it home is half the fun.

There could be a 5 ton Wrecker in your future.

Thanks for the Video.

CAT MAN

Recovery.

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:07 pm
by Colin Britton
Well actually I had the snatch block for the winch with me. But I really have not really gone over the winch all that much. It works, but the PTO leaks and the shaft has an awful lot of slop and play in the slipjoint. So I did not want to risk it on such a load while working out the bugs for the 1st time.....

But I'm more than likely the only medic in the Army with a licence for the M-88A1 tank recovery vehicle. I LOVE THE 88!!! Man I would love to have one of those!!! :D

But a nice Sterling wrecker would be nice..... I could do alot with one of those..... Ooooooh man! I would be in the dog house like Bill! :D

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:08 pm
by dr deuce
One thing that always helps is if the towed vehicle can pull down on the towing vehicle as it is being pulled to simulate weight on the rear wheels as opposed to a straight pull.

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:20 pm
by John V Cliche
Colin,
I think you will find,as I did :wink: that fabricating an overhead " gantry"type of crane will be the only way to "safely" remove/install most of the items for your M20, from engine covers ,to the fuel cell ,and even the radiator as well as that MASSIVE :lol: truck battery, not mention the engine and tranny itself :)
The crane may be an easier sell :wink:on the home front than another vehicle.

Cheers
John

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:02 am
by S p r u e o n e
WOW, thanks for making that video and posting it!

M20 in Ottawa

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:55 pm
by Canadian Gunner
HI Doc:

I promised to post the info on the M20 in the Swords and Ploughshares Museum and I've finally had the time to clean up the stampings and record them (as they appear on the front left lower corner of the glacis plate and roughly in the same position relative to each other):

U.S.A. 60111277
34-5271
R23
R-23
S. 654
60111277

Hope this helps with the M20 data base!

Cheers and Ubique! Mike

Automatic deletion of spaces in front of digits.

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:57 pm
by Canadian Gunner
Darn! I made a special effort to space the lines and data out as seen on the M-20 and the electronic gremlins lined everything up purty on me! :evil:

Cheers! Mike

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:45 pm
by S p r u e o n e
yeah, you can't just use the space bar, if that is what you did.
You have to type in characters for the spacing,

eg: U.S.A. 60111277
>>>>>>>34-5271
R23 -------
R-23
........S. 654
60111277

or something like that.

Learn something new every day!

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:39 am
by Canadian Gunner
Thanks Sprueone!

U.S.A. 60111277
................34-5271
R23
..............R-23
S. 654
...............60111277

Cheers! Mike

What a prize!!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:33 pm
by LHDman82
Hey Doc!

Joe R. here from the LHD. Nice recovery there. You are definitely "the man"! :) I always thought your weapons collection was nice but now I'm REALLY envious. I look forward to seeing your restoration progress on the M-20. Maybe one day I'll have my own vehicle to display at the museum.

Keep us posted, okay?

Best regards,

Joe

M-20's and Weapons

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:01 am
by Colin Britton
Joe,

Good to hear from you, and your expanding weapons collection is no joke... I would love to have a couple of your toys.
And with your two jeeps you have a small parade all by yourself.
Thanks for the complements.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:27 pm
by John V Cliche
Hey Doc
How are you progressing on the M20 ?

Cheers
John