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The 41 that I'm building as my new yard truck has gotten it's quicky paint job, I was able to pull the hood numbers up very nicely, first in white then below that in blue, it was the same number 454000 so I have to assume it was the original number. I was wondering when that number was applied,at the factory or when it was delivered to the troops, and did they repaint in white when they went over seas, I have a can of the proper blue but I haven't decided what would be more correct, it's just going to be a yard truck but I would still like to get some what close to proper, any thoughts. Thanks,Bob.
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As it left the factory Blue Drab
A field repaint ,or a post war rebuild,or a motor pool hood replacement, most likely white
So which do YOU want :wink:

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http://yfrog.com/1sjeepminiatura2j
This dismounted Jeep still in the package.Its hood number is already white.Ask why isn't it blue drab? :?
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I believe the jeep you are refering to is a model and not a period photo.


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I believe I saw where some one restored a jeep and set it up as a WW2 crated jeep, could be that picture?
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What do you think guys? WHITE or BLUE DRAB hood number still in the crate? :D
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" Initially,the registration numbers were white, but on the second contract, they were the later blue drab."

Army Motors, the history of CCKW, parts III , the CCKWX

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AR 850-5(ARMY REGULATIONS)-August,5th 1942,US MILITARY EQUIPMENT MARKINGS
SECTION III
VEHICLES
.........7.REGISTRATION MARKINGS-US registration symbols and numbers.a.When marked-Motor vehicles will be marked with the U.S. registration symbols and numbers prescribed in AR 850-10.Original markings will be applied by manufacturers.b.How marked-The marking on the vehicle will be with BLUE-DRAB lusterless enamel by means of a stencil.
.........10.UNIT MARKINGS-Gasoline solvent paint or paint as described by the war department will be used.a.Unit markings..........b.Unit identification symbols (1)...........
(2)....................(3)How marked.Unit identification markings will be painted in WHITE letters on olive-drab background. :wink:
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1942 ???

The CCKWX was born since 2 little years !

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http://yfrog.com/3rackwx1940j
Richard,in 1939/40(ACKWX period)the USA wasn't in war yet.Its first action in war was in Torch operation in november 1942.In that opportunity was baptism of fire of general Dwight David Eisenhower.USA was bombed by Japan in Pearl Harbor in december 1941.I was readind Bryce Sunderlin italian article that says in finish of 1939 it has only twelve 2 1/2 ton civily ACKWX,notice in pic w/o identification number in front bumper. :roll:
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The directive to paint the hood numbers Blue drab came out in 42 as posted
CCKW production started before that. as previously posted
That's why Bryce's article states first white hood numbers THEN blue drab..... again as previously posted


Fernando,
I'm confused as to what the confusion is ??????

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From all the reply I think I have it figured out, if it left the US for a combat theater then it most likely would have been repainted white, but if it stayed in the US it probably would have been blue till the truck received it's first repaint, here's a picture of the truck, while not a real restoration it looks better then the faded OD that was on it, the bed is a too long M-series that I plan on shortening when I have some time, bare in mind it's just a yard truck, a very handy one at that! Image
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I am not confused.Don't know why you are.Registration marking(manufactorer)=blue-drab and identification marking(unit)=white. :idea:
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Still not sure about those dates, the CCKWX that I have in the yard was built 12/16/40 number 4997, the original hood number in blue drab is 4200575, I don't know if someone has the build number/hood number situation figured out but as far as I can tell these are all original numbers for this truck, like I said when I started this thread my yard truck which was built in 41 has blue hood numbers, both of these were sanded through to primer, so until I see a picture of the first CCKWX to roll off the line with hood number that we can read and determine what color they were I don't think we'll ever really know!
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While I was thinking about it I ran out and shot a picture of the "W" I think it's pretty clear what color it was. Image
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Fernando Mendes wrote:I am not confused.Don't know why you are.Registration marking(manufactorer)=blue-drab and identification marking(unit)=white. :idea:
I thought we were discussing "hood" / "registration" numbers as opposed to "unit numbers '

My bad :lol:

So, Bob what "unit" numbers are you gonna put on the "ole girl " ?

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I'm not really sure, what ever I mark my half-track for is what every thing else will get marked for, most likely 4th armored, I've found a bunch of 4th armored memorabila, since everyone does third armored I figured I'd be a little different! I'll have to dig through all my books and pictures and find some thing I like!
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Jeep Willys MB DoD dec,16 1942 s/n:196275
Dodge B3-B 4x2 1952 s/n:90099559
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