torque rod repair/rebuilding

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torque rod repair/rebuilding

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I will probably be replacing my torque rods on my cargo/banjo deuce this year. I have nice non-rubber ones to install as placements.

I can be careful and not damage the threads (nuts look like something else after 60,00+ miles) while removing the nuts or just take them off the easiest way.

Has anyone ever heard of re-bushing these with rubber or whatever is in the non-rubber ones? If so, company name/location etc.
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I believe this company can help.


http://www.atrobushing.com/category/

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Post by Motto »

The late type torque rod was constructed in such a way that the ball ends could be replaced by pressing the old ones out and pressing in the replacement. The problem is, replacement ball ends do not seem to have been provided for the CCKW/DUKW. Only the entire torque rod assembly was supplied as a spares unit and presumably the unserviceable rod assembly discarded.
This seems strange as the Dodge 6x6 torque rod which was similarly constructed (though smaller) had the ball ends supplied as a spare and they could be replaced individually. Several of the dealers have them and I've acquired some to keep on hand.
I've seen DUKW/late CCKW ball ends that have failed and they appear to be filled with some type of string winding. I very much doubt they can be rebuilt as the sheet metal casing is quite neatly swaged around the ball. The earlier rubber mounted type were horrible things . The ball was egg shaped not spherical and when they became slogged out the link could pop off quite easily. I remember seeing an old yard crane CCKW in New Guinea that was so badly slogged out in the rod ends that plates had been welded to the heads of the pins to stop the rods falling off. When the driver dropped the clutch both rear axle housings did about a quarter of a turn to take up the slack. It looked quite funny to see them both rotate in unison. 'Use to the max'.

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hello to every one ,ive been reading the forum for a while now and i think it is great .last year i took all the torque rods off my truck they turned out to be the none splitable type ,a couple had a lot of play so put grease nipples in all of them ,and packed them with heavy grease drives like a new one.GMC 352 spilt axles :D
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Doc
did you manage to get your torque rods sorted ? ... and how?
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Not yet...
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Brianh wrote:hello to every one ,ive been reading the forum for a while now and i think it is great .last year i took all the torque rods off my truck they turned out to be the none splitable type ,a couple had a lot of play so put grease nipples in all of them ,and packed them with heavy grease drives like a new one.GMC 352 spilt axles :D
The correct is to lubricate them with "BRAKE FLUID".
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does anyone know if the torque rods for the split or banjo axled gmc are the same as the Studebaker US6 (split axle) torque rods? (I know gmc split and banjo rods are a different length)
Torque rod bushings on my stude are starting to "push out" of the ball (by a few mm) -they look similar to the banjo axled gmc ones but am not sure if they are the same/same size ..... am wanting to replace them if possible ....
Also - Does anyone think it would be possible to buy an "off the shelf" bushing and get it turned down (lathe) to the correct size ? Any ideas appreciated .....
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I believe that they are different lengths.

I have heard, maybe in this forum that people take M35 torque rods and have them cut, shortened and rewelded.
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1943 CCKW closed cab cargo w/M32 MG mount
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1945 CCKW open cab cargo w/artic cab
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